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Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:31 am
by petroscf
Ok, last night I couldn't help it, although I was very much tired from my working day, I took the E21 to go for a night drive in Athens southern suburbs just to drive, enjoy and see how the car goes...
So I worked it on higher revs and saw it really goes well!!!
I am not sure if the extra HP is as much as we were estimating the other day, but for sure the car is faster, much faster than before.
What I didn't get, was higher maximum speed, this was exactly as before. (maybe probably power has not to do with max speed?)
Also because of the bar, 100km/h "shimmy" has disappeared (I don't know whether it'll come back after a while, though!)
and I was not feeling body roll (or at least what my perception of body roll is...)! In general I could enter the curves much faster than before, it was only my self-protection instict that was guiding my foot to press the brakes, in well known curves...
Next drive I hope to remember to take a camera with me, so that I make some pics and post here...
Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:43 pm
by petroscf
Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:04 am
by petroscf
petroscf wrote:
Jeroen this sticker is the one I fitted right...On the other side, by my mistake it's not aligned so I am ashamed to show

(This is why I told you I 'd like to have a new one...)
Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:09 am
by petroscf
Can anyone tell me what improvements will I have in driving and handling in case I fit rear brakes from 323i ? I mean apart from stronger braking, are there any differences because of different rear suspension?
Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:15 am
by e21-Mark
I wouldn't bother unless you want to remove the rear subframe and fit new bushes anyway? If you want to improve the brakes upgrade the fronts as they do most of the braking anyway. Even a simple pad upgrade to something like EBC Greenstuff would help. I've always found them to be pretty good.
Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:42 am
by petroscf
This is why I am asking: I also believe that for the current engine, (even with the weber

) no brake improvement is needed, or just fit those Alfa brembo calipers and vented disks to the front and that's the end.
I am asking just because I 've read somewhere (in here!) that by replacing the rear suspension, on M10 cars, with the rear susp from M20 cars, is not only done just in order to have rear disks, but improves the car's handling as well? does this make the car better in fast turns?
Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:00 am
by e21-Mark
I'm not sure? Maybe it's more to do with the fact you'd have the stiffer springs from an m20 engined car?
If I were you, I would buy a set of Toyo888r's and then go find some twisty roads.
Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:07 am
by petroscf
And what if I move the rear subframe?
Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:43 pm
by e21-Mark
If your removing the rear subframe anyway, then yes you may as well swap for a 323 one. If not, I would leave well alone and buy sticky rubber instead. That's just my opinion though.
Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:54 am
by petroscf
e21-Mark wrote:If your removing the rear subframe anyway, then yes you may as well swap for a 323 one. If not, I would leave well alone and buy sticky rubber instead. That's just my opinion though.
What improvements should the 323i subframe have? That's the question (in order to understand if it 'll be worth swapping or not)
And, as I am soon about to replace tyres, I 'd like to know about these proxes: What are they, what differences do they make etc.
Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:49 am
by e-einundzwanzig
the only thing of improvement is the rear stabiliser, a 323i one is a couple of mm thicker...
Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:56 am
by petroscf
Can anyone tell me about the toyo 888??
What difference would they make instead of, say, Michelins or Bridgestones?
Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:09 pm
by e21-Mark
They're road legal track tyres and stick like ''**** to a blanket'' as we say here in the UK. There are few tyres, if any, that will give you the same levels of grip as 888's do.

Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:12 pm
by petroscf
and about the rain?
Re: My 1977 316
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:17 pm
by e21-Mark
They're great except on standing water and no tyres are gonna be brilliant then.
