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Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:03 pm
by misza
You dont need to go supercharget to get 200HP from this engine.
Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:31 pm
by pandemonium001
misza wrote:You dont need to go supercharget to get 200HP from this engine.
Thats what i am hoping for, already got the 88mm crank thanks to Mark, just need to decide on pistons and comp ratio next.
Do you have any experience whith this engine misza?
Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:26 pm
by polov8
Depends how much torque you want and where in the rev range. Having run a mk1 Scirocco with a chipped 1.8t making about 200hp, I can vouch for the advantages of a torque curve that's big and flat, vs a peaky and stressed 2.0 N/A motor.
Several Civic Type R's round here will back me up on this!

Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:45 pm
by misza
No by my self, i know a good recipe to get close to 200hp
-m47crank
-m54b30 rods
-pistons from XU10J4RS(86mm,peugeot 306gti) they fits on bmw rods
-CR ~11,5
And u will need to grind the block about 1mm, the pistons are litlle lower. I hope you understand what I mean.
Of course, much remains to be done, it's just a recipe for completion of the block
I heard that, the best way is to put m42 head to m44 block, that combination gives more HP
Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:34 am
by pandemonium001
Cant believe i just saw this:
http://www.bmwe21.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19851
I have both , i think, so now its just a case of how much I value getting a dogleg box!!!
fidanza flywheel for around £360 deliverd or M20??
Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:55 pm
by pandemonium001
Note to self:
Bolts for rear beam camber kit
Eccentric bolt part # 33321095102 x4
Self-locking collar nut part # 33326760668 x4
Eccentric flat washer part # 33306786186 x4
Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:18 am
by pandemonium001
another update but not much.
painted some of the backend stuff
some good quality 2k epoxy that contains lead used there for first coat, will scuff and recoat in the future with more epoxy then 2k high solid clearcoat it all.
now started my spit roast
all from scrap.
wanted one i could load the car by my self, the fixed height ones are o.k if there are 2 or three of you but trying to lift a shell on is a paint with a engine crane and just unsafe.
turn the ratchet at the top and it lifts the whole lot up or down from axle stand height.
just how i have enough clearance with the stabaliser leg, other wise it may be changed to a 4 wheeled design, or alter the balance point by chopping the leg that is tacked on.
deciding where to lift the front of the shell from was the hardest, i didnt want the points to interfere with attaching the subframes and the front will be the easiest to touch up the paint in the future.
Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:35 pm
by nas80
that screw lift spit is a great idea mate, your pretty clever eh
Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:15 pm
by pandemonium001
Thanks

, still got the rear one to do and fettle it up a bit.
It may be for sale when im finished

Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:09 am
by pandemonium001
we have lift off.
just need the link bar for the middle, its a bit bottom heavy so will shorten the drop down bars a bit for better balance.

Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:12 am
by pandemonium001
when its ready i will probably roll it straight on to the trailer like this for the blasters then right back in the garage, degrease and epoxy the shell.
Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:16 am
by polov8
Very cool, I've often found myself wanting one of these!
Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:04 pm
by pandemonium001
picked up the eccentric bolts from the stealers today £39 for the E39 ones, ordered 2 new drive shaft nuts, just need to turn the damaged bits of thread off the outer shaft adapter and order some bits and the shafts are ready for grit blast and paint.
just going to get a friend to mill down some plate for the camber caster plates
if any one can get me some dimensions or one to copy I may get some extra's made up for the forum.
Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:22 pm
by nas80
I have a rear beam thats camber n toe adjustable, but one camber plate is missing
Re: Pandemoniums 316 restore
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:14 pm
by pandemonium001
nas80 wrote:I have a rear beam thats camber n toe adjustable, but one camber plate is missing
If you could measure the plates up as accurately as possible and post a pic with dims on here i will get one made for you. will download the pdf i found on another site and see how they compare.