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Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 10:33 pm
by uwbuurman
@Ben, just attend to the Sharknosemeeting, I'll hand it over overthere
@Nas, Thanks! Lost of pics to come, this is just the tip of the iceberg!
Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:06 am
by Duracel79
I had thought about Sharknose, but it won't fit inside an E21 especially when I'm continuing round Europe for 2000 miles after the Show.
Did you have a price in mind for the roof? and would you mind finding out shipping costs to Letchworth, England? I hope it won't be too expensive.
Regards
Ben
Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:40 pm
by uwbuurman
Hi Ben, with all due respect, but I think it'll be much cheaper to look for a breaker and just cut off the roof yourself. Sending a roof undamaged over to the UK seems like a nightmare to me...
Complete rustfree and nice roof is 50 pounds ex shipping.
Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 10:09 pm
by uwbuurman
And we have a roof again!!!!
Fit it cold and just clamp it on there.
Then some stitchwelds (or whatever its called)
After that the car is put onto the repairbench or straightener and the measuringsystem was put under it.
After measuring it turned out to be 4 mm offcenter, so we had to press the roof 2mm aside. Now its 0mm! BMW had a tolerance of 3mm in the factory, so, job well done!
All straightend out!
Then welded it all.
And on the inside
Putting the hatch back!
All grinded down.
This roof used to have a winddeflector, but thats not coming back, so welded the holes shut.
And now, I have a sunroof!!
Down from the bench, Monday an onther car needs to bestraightened
I’m happy! Nice roof, nice work!

Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 10:23 pm
by uwbuurman
On Monday July 4th 2011 we went on with the floor. The previous restauration scared the crap out of us.
What a terrible job they did!!!!!!(sorry, had to get it out of my system.)
The floorpanels a just welded on to trhe side of the chassisbar
No rustprotection whatsoever, so rust everywhere
On the chassisbar there are no of insuffient spotwelds, not welded thru and tru, the outersill is not welded properly, look what happens when you open the door…
Floorpanel dosn’t run over the chassisbar, but is bended in to place en just a few spotwelds
Rear suspension mounts are rotten
And then this is what you get…

Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 8:17 am
by Mihajlo
My mechanic also changed roof on his E30, but on the different way..
He did not cut pillars, he only grinded the spots where the roof was spotwelded on the body and cut upper part of the roof where it was joined by factory. When he did that, car looked like E30 Baur
Major job was preparation of the "replacement" roof because everything has to be perfectly aligned.
But I like both ways..

Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 1:54 pm
by Duracel79
uwbuurman wrote:Hi Ben, with all due respect, but I think it'll be much cheaper to look for a breaker and just cut off the roof yourself. Sending a roof undamaged over to the UK seems like a nightmare to me...
Complete rustfree and nice roof is 50 pounds ex shipping.
No problem, I thought delivery would be the issue. its not heavy but big and delicate.
I've still got time before I need a tintop roof, probably 2 years down the line.
Ben
PS Liking the attention to detail of the metalwork

Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 1:30 pm
by uwbuurman
July 7th, 2011, done a lot tonight.
Restored the inner sill. Took out the rotten bits and put in some new metal.
After that we prepped the edges and sprayed them with this stuff.
And attached
Upper and lower spotwelded
And some CO2 welding
Then we put in the the door to check the gap. Nice and straight!

Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 1:46 pm
by uwbuurman
Some days later we repaired a part of the floor
At first cut it to size
Then cut out the part on the car
Clean it all to prepare it for welding
And dryfitting to measure out the chassisbar.
And again I sprayed it in the anti-corrosionprimer
Then we put in the supportplate
Cleaned the chassisbar and took of all the rust and undercoating and other stuff.
Welded in
Close this gat tomorrow and then this side is done.

Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 1:55 pm
by uwbuurman
Saturday July 9th 2011, we had a visit from Pattam2009, Patrick. He also wants to fit his car with a sunroof.
Floor at the right side is done!!
A nice selffabricated piece of floor
Put in.
And then another piece
Grinding and sanding
And put in and primered it.
And after removal of the big pannet we discovered spots like this.
The corner of the B-pillar always rusts. Seeing this, triple plates, it doesn’t wonder me. A strange construction it is.
We had to make the little corners ourselves, because its NLA at BMWs
At the rear also a shitload of filler, at some spots more than 5 mm thick!!!
This it it for now.

And the returning question: what will we replace also??
1 hint:
Took the old roof home.

Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 1:58 pm
by uwbuurman
@ Ben: this is the way you can take it home!!! Just return to the Netherlands of your way back from the Alps! I'll drive up to Breda if you want.
Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 11:06 pm
by raseeda green
It's amazing work, will keep checking posts, beautiful welding work too.
Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:37 pm
by uwbuurman
Well then… on Monday June 11th, 2011 we went on with the right sidepanel.
We took of the wheelhouse arch, but that was in so bad a shape that we needed to replace that.
Here we need a new flange (is that the right word for it? Is anyone reading this anyway?)
On the inside some rust has to be cleared out
Repairing of the B pillar:
Cut out the bad parts
And put in a new piece of metal
The we fitted the sidepanel, cut it to size.
made some cornerpieces for the rearsidepanels
At the rear some rust has to be cleared also.
Old joint between rear and side panel
Tomorrow we will repair some more little spots ant then the sidepanel can be fitted on.
Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:49 pm
by uwbuurman
We made the wheelhouse arch flange thing…
And welded it inn
Repaired the frontside of the wheelhouse
Tomorrow we’ll place the rear side panel.
Re: Uwbuurman: 1978 323i polaris
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:05 pm
by uwbuurman